What others have said…
“Judge Lori Christian is an absolute FOOL. She abuses her power as a judge to wield her irrational and emotional decision-making on all of her victims who enter her court room. This little midget swears she is Judge Judy and the cameras are rolling. She ignores facts and relies almost completely on emotion. She actually yells at people in her court room. This woman needs a new line of work.”
“Lawyers are not going into court to litigate your matter enthusiastically, especially not in front of Judge Christian. They will gladly take your money and show-up. Sadly, that’s about all that is required of them.”
“I personally have been at the wrong end of Judge Christian’s wrath in addition to witnessing others rights being deprived by her from the bench. In my opinion, her actions constitute conduct inappropriate to her judicial office…If the public, along with yourself were to file complaint(‘s) with the Judicial Standards Commission, maybe Judge Christian’s behavior and actions from the bench might change… Just a thought.”
“Why she hates men? This story is not hearsay, but comes from first hand personal knowledge. One Christmas holiday season, a long, long, long time ago, a much younger Lori G. Christian was pregnant and was asked by her husband what she would like for Christmas? To which she relied, “Nothing”. So the husband at that time got her just that, nothing… You can imagine for yourself what hell hath wrought on that poor soul (the husband)? I think she’s been taking it out on that poor man and any of us lesser mortals that come before her ever since.”
Personally I have written two complaints to the Judicial Standards commission about the unlawful acts committed against me and my family by this Kangaroo Court Judge. I also have a Federal Lawsuit (see below) in the works which includes her and 31 other defendants at the moment. Ron Reale, Indignant Father
Click the following link to read the two complaints…
JUDGE LORI CHRISTIAN: MY TWO COMPLAINTS TO THE JUDICIAL STANDARDS COMMISSION
| Bar ID | 20890 |
| Name | Judge Lori G. Christian |
| Address | PO Box 351 |
| City | Raleigh |
| State | NC |
| Zip | 27602 |
| Work Phone | 919-755-4101 |
| Fax | Not on file |
| Licensed | 8/26/1994 |
| Status | Judge |
BUILDING THE CASE…
DISTRICT COURT JUDGE LORI CHRISTIAN, TENTH JUDICIAL DISTRICT
Defendant Judge Lori Christian, District Court Judge being hereby named in both her individual and official capacities, is an individual and a resident of this jurisdictional district, is a District Court Judge in the Tenth Judicial District, Wake County in the State of North Carolina and was at all times material, pertinent and relevant hereto. Current mailing address is; c/o Jennifer Gaff, PO Box 351, Raleigh, NC 27602. The Defendant was in fact, acting under the authority or color of state law at the time these claims occurred in that while in her official capacity as the District Court Judge in case numbers 10CVD7386 and 10CVD5477 her execution of, The Tenth Judicial District Family Court Rules for Domestic Court’s “customs” and/or “policies” were the moving force behind her unconstitutional acts, and that personally, her individual unconstitutional acts violated the clearly established constitutional rights of the Plaintiffs of which a reasonable official would have known, Davis v. Scherer (1984). Her judicial immunity is defeated when, “though judicial in nature,” her acts are “taken in complete absence of jurisdiction,” Mireles v. Waco (1991). Judge Christian’s acts also raise the questions as to criminal acts under 18 U.S.C.A § 242, for willful deprivation of constitutional rights. In addition, she did act under the authority or color of state law when she acted in concert with local officials, including but not limited to, WCHS social workers, their supervisors and others, causing harm to the Plaintiffs in effecting the deprivation of rights, Dennis v. Sparks (1980).
On May 3rd my wife and I appeared in courtroom 8B before Judge Lori Christian at 9:00am as ordered pursuant to Docket Number 10CVD5477. In 10CVD5477 I was the plaintiff in my Motion for Emergency Custody that was originally filed with the Clerk of the Court on March 29, 2010. On March 29, 2010 at 9:00am in 10CVD5477 an Ex Parte Emergency Custody Order was issued by Judge Christian stating in part, that I shall have temporary custody of my 7 minor children. On April 5, 2010 at 9:00am an amended Ex Parte Emergency Custody Order was issued stating in part, that I shall have immediate sole temporary physical and legal custody of my 7 minor children and my wife must immediately surrender our minor children to me.
My motion for custody in 10CVD5477 stated in part that my wife had left the state of North Carolina with our 7 minor children on March 8, 2010 due to marital differences without notifying me to avoid jurisdiction. She took herself and our 7 minor children to the state of California. While in California, She obtained a Temporary Restraining Order, docket CASWD020638, preventing me from executing my North Carolina Emergency Custody Order. Without the proper jurisdiction a California Commissioner issued a Temporary Restraining Order. I, my wife, and each of our 7 minor children are all residents of Wake County, North Carolina. My wife was ultimately ordered by Judge Lori Christian to return to North Carolina with our 7 minor children during a telephone hearing that took place between California and North Carolina on April 15, 2010; and to appear before her on May 3, 2010 at 9:00am for a temporary custody hearing. The California case was dismissed as Void due to lack of jurisdiction.
Counts 1 through 8 alleged against Judge Christian defeat Judicial immunity in that Judge Christian’s acts “though judicial in nature,” were “taken in complete absence of jurisdiction,” Mireles v. Waco (991). The court lacked subject matter jurisdiction and subsequently lacked personal jurisdiction to enter any order against me. The DVPO was ultimately set aside as Void on March 29, 2011 (11 months later). Judge Christian’s acts also raise the questions as to criminal acts under 18 U.S.C.A § 242, for WILLFUL DEPRIVATION OF CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS.
COUNT I; VIOLATION OF THE FOURTEENTH AMENDMENT – Due Process
On May 3, 2010 in 10CVD5477, Judge Lori Christian issued a Domestic Violence Protective Order (DVPO) against me in a manner inconsistent with Due Process while violating several others of my civil rights on multiple occasions, assigning a new Docket Number, 10CVD7386. My wife Debra did not file a motion or any other request of any kind for a DVPO pursuant to N.C.G.S §50B-2 while in the state of North Carolina either before her departure on March 8, 2010 or after her return on May 1, 2010 up to and including her appearance on May 3, 2010 in courtroom 8B.
COUNT II; VIOLATION OF THE FOURTEENTH AMENDMENT – Due Process
At the start of the hearing the judge made the following statement; “So, I think it is appropriate for this to be both a hearing related to the domestic violence issue, because I’ve still got that ex-parte domestic violence issue out there from California, as well as I have to resolve the custody issue as it relates to Wake County. Okay?” Once again, the California issue (TRO) had been dismissed as Void due to lack of jurisdiction, in fact “full faith and credit” did not even apply as Title 18 U.S.C. § 2265(a) specifically states that full faith and credit may only be extended if such court has jurisdiction over the parties and subject matter under the law of the issuing state. Neither does a court in the state of North Carolina or any other state have the right or the jurisdiction to make another state’s temporary order permanent. I responded to the Judge’s statements regarding the alleged domestic violence by stating; “I do not intend to make myself heard on the protective order.” Soon after Judge Christian asked; “Okay, are you conceding that there should be a domestic violence order against you?” I then responded; “No, I am not conceding to that. I am not going to be heard on that.”
COUNT III; VIOLATION OF THE FOURTEENTH AMENDMENT – Due Process
Furthermore, due process was additionally ignored with regard to Judge Christian holding the hearing on both the “alleged domestic violence” and the “custody issue,” especially without a request by my wife, the alleged victim, or for that matter in the absence of any documentation on the matter whatsoever; as this is a violation of the Tenth Judicial District Family Court Rules for Domestic Court which addresses that by combining the chapter 50 action with the chapter 50B action, Judge Christian violated Rule 18.4 as follows: “When an action has been filed under Chapter 50 and a subsequent action is filed under Chapter 50B, the FCCC must add the hearing to the assigned Judge’s calendar to be heard within a reasonable time. The only issues to be heard shall be those raised in the Chapter 50B action.” A Chapter 50B did not exist and the Chapter 50 was never addressed. A very perplexing series of events!
COUNT IV; VIOLATIONS OF THE EIGHTH AMENDMENT – Cruel and Unusual Punishment AND THE FOURTEENTH AMENDMENT – Due Process Clause
Judge Christian also acted improperly during the temporary custody hearing whereby I was unlawfully detained in handcuffs by order of the court and escorted to Bank of America by two deputies in handcuffs, and was kept in handcuffs at the bank as I withdrew nearly every penny from my personal bank account leaving $1.00 as a balance (also by order of the court). This, after I just presented the court with a voluntary child support agreement in the amount of $1,408 per month plus an additional $400 for my wife’s truck payment and insurance totaling $1,808. I was ordered to withdraw ALL but $1.00 from my personal bank account and surrender it to the court by threat of 30 days in jail. Evidenced by the transcript from the hearing Judge Christian stated the following; “You sit there, Mr. Reale, I will get somebody to escort you down. If you don’t withdraw everything other than $1.00 from that account, I’m going to hold you in criminal contempt and I’m going to put you in jail. Okay? And you are going to request in front of the deputy a balance on that account, and every penny that’s in there, you’re going to take out. And you can make the decision today whether you want to go to jail for 30 days, or you want to give her that money? And if it needs to be in handcuffs,… Mr. Reale, it will be in handcuffs, to get as much money as he has in his account.” There was no child support order in place at this time nor was there any appropriate reason to order this seizing of funds from my own personal account. This was ordered without cause and without provocation. In fact the entire hearing/proceeding was in violation of Due Process on many levels and should be generally considered improper, even unlawful and produced Void, unenforceable orders. In fact based on the lack of jurisdiction and “under the color of law,” the Judge’s actions clearly have risen to the level of criminal under Title 18 U.S.C.A § 242, for willful deprivation of Constitutional Rights.
COUNT V; VIOLATIONS OF THE EIGHTH AMENDMENT – Cruel and Unusual Punishment AND FOURTEENTH AMENDMENT – Due Process Clause
Once again, acting improperly and unlawfully, after the trip to the bank Judge Christian ordered that I was to be held in handcuffs and later in a detention cell until 5pm, again without cause and without provocation. Judge Christian stated; “You’ve stipulated that you don’t care where these children are.” I quickly responded; “I do care where they are. I’m not going to contest where they go. I do want to communicate with the children if I could. All I am saying is that I do want contact with the children, if nothing else, by phone. But where she lives and what she needs to have the space that she needs to figure out what she really wants to do is what I am trying to offer.” The Judge then stated; “Mr. Reale, I suggest you be quiet before I lock you up and hold you in contempt for lying to this court. Okay, I’m ordering him to stay in this courtroom, Mr. Deputy. He can sit right up in this seat up here until five o’clock.” I was moved from the courtroom at 12:00 noon to a holding cell in the basement of the courthouse until 5pm. There was no contempt order or any other supporting documentation. I requested a copy of any documentation as to the reason for my detention. I was later given a document titled, “Conditions of Release and Release Order”. The following was hand written under offenses simply stated; “defendant in custody until 5pm on 5/3/2010” and was signed by Judge Christian. There was no reason noted, in fact, no other writing whatsoever other than the judge’s signature and date. I was not provided any food, water and was without my diabetes medication during this incarceration.
COUNT VI; VIOLATION THE FOURTEENTH AMENDMENT – Both the Due Process Clause and the Equal Protection Clause
As evidenced in the transcript of these proceedings Judge Christian never inquired as to service of process on either party, either as to 10CVD5477 or the newly created 10CVD7386. Judge Christian never even allowed me to present my original motion (the original purpose of the hearing). My wife never filed a response to the original motion. It was simply never discussed. As a result, the hearing and any evidence presented was one-sided to say the least. My wife did not even testify nor did she question any witnesses. As evidenced by the transcript, the judge asked all the questions, effectively acting on her behalf (as her attorney). At the start of the hearing the Judge made it clear that social services would be called to testify stating; “And I’ll tell you right off the bat, I need to hear from social services, okay?” (Judges calling their own witnesses???)
It should also be noted that prior to her current appointment Judge Christian was a County Attorney for Wake County Human Services (CPS) and seemed very much to be making her decisions from bias. Judges must maintain a high standard of judicial performance with particular emphasis upon conducting litigation with scrupulous fairness and impartiality. 28 USCA § 2411; Pfizer v. Lord, 456 F.2d 532; cert denied 92 S Ct 2411; US Ct App MN, (1972). State Judges, as well as federal, have the responsibility to respect and protect persons from violations of federal constitutional rights. Gross v. State of Illinois, 312 F 2d 257; (1963)
All allegations cited herein pertaining to the actions of Judge Lori Christian and others can be corroborated by the court record and transcript from the hearing held on May 3, 2010 in courtroom 8B, Docket numbers 10CVD5477 and 10CVD7386.
I have lost all faith and trust in the court system, not to mention that I believes there is NO possibility of being treated fairly, much less impartially in any court after this experience. I walked into her courtroom with an order for emergency custody of my kids in my possession, and I walked out only after being unlawfully escorted to Bank of America to drain my personal bank account, unlawfully detained from 12pm to 5pm in a jail cell, and with a DVPO entered against me for 1 year unlawfully and without the benefit of Due Process. To this day I experience periodic nightmares of the ordeal and nightmares as to my children calling out for me to come for them and bring them home, among others.
Approximately 6 weeks later during the week of June 14, 2010, my wife contacted me and we began the reunification process by re-establishing our family residence and seeking marriage counselor beginning with the pastor of our church. WCHS alleged a violation of a protective order, stepped in and filed a petition for removal of our 7 minor children from our home. My wife had already recanted all previous allegations in her affidavit titled “why I left my husband” and “How the abuse allegations got out of control,” to no avail. No other evidence to the allegations of abuse or neglect existed nor was ever presented. Subsequently, on June 23, 2010 our 7 minor children were taken into custody by Wake County Human Services; a petition was filed, and an Order for Non-Secure Custody was entered on the same day by Judge Eric Chasse granting Non-Secure Custody to WCHS. The initial petition filed on June 23, 2010 states in part; “The juveniles are neglected juveniles in that the juveniles are in need of placement because they… are exposed to an injurious environment, to wit: Judge Christian held a temporary hearing and issued a protective order whereby Mr. Reale and the mother were to have no contact. Her moving back is a violation of the protective order and has placed the children at risk of immediate harm.” My wife and I have been fighting this new development in court since.
COUNT VII; VIOLATIONS OF THE FIFTH AMENDMENT – Due Process Clause and THE FOURTEENTH AMENDMENT – Due Process Clause and Equal Protection Clause
On December 6, 2010 I filed a motion with Judge Christian pursuant to NC Rules of Civil procedure Rule 60b (4), the order is void requesting the Court to set aside the Domestic Violence Protective Order entered on May 3, 2010. A hearing was set for December 20, 2010. Proper notification was made by me as required through the Domestic Violence Division to my wife through her attorney Rick Croutharmel. I appeared on December 20, 2010, however no one from the other party was present. Judge Christian asked me if I had served the other party to which I responded that I had successfully served my wife’s attorney but that I understood the attorney may be challenging his need to appear. The Judge continued the date until I could definitively resolve the service of process issue (although there was none). The attorney was in violation of the order to present himself in representing his client or withdraw. Neither was done and no action taken against the attorney by the court. I contacted the attorney by email and the attorney agreed to represent his client and requested that I notify him of the date of the next scheduled hearing. I informed Judge Christian’s clerk of the developments and requested the matter be put back on the calendar. After quite some time and at least one follow-up email with the clerk, I received a notice in the mail setting a date of March 16, 2011 for this matter (for a motion filed on December 6, 2010???). So, this is the run-around given to such a serious matter in that an illegal order exists and that the mere existence of this unlawful, void protective order has caused and continues to cause irreparable harm to the me, my wife and our 7 minor children, in that it has imposed restrictions on our basic freedoms and other basic rights afforded them by and through the Constitution of the United States.
COUNT VIII – VIOLATIONS OF THE FIFTH AMENDMENT – Due Process Clause, and THE FOURTEENTH AMENDMENT – Due Process Clause
Last, but not least, I have been deprived of custody and even visitation on the basis of this unlawful DVPO issued by Judge Lori Christian throughout this process and during these current Juvenile Dependency Proceedings. I had not seen my children in over 226 days (as of February 5, 2011) as a result of the unlawfully entry of this DVPO and Judge Christian’s conduct in the courtroom. A parent’s right to the custody of his or her children is an element of “liberty” guaranteed by the 5th Amendment and the 14th Amendment of the United States Constitution. Matter of Gentry, 369 NW 2d 889, MI App Div (1983).
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I can’t tell you what she did to one poor innocent victim, Linda S. Ritlinger. She threatened Linda; that if Linda told anything of the last two court hearings that this Lori Christian monster presided over, she would put Linda in prison. This is not only, clearly, a violation of Linda’s right to freedom of speech, such a threat is criminally illegal!? Read my book, “Edie’s Castle: Part One: Paula’s Prophecy,” that tells the entire story of Linda’s life and how she got to where she is today in this unfolding of judicial and child protective criminally unethical behaviors that had her son twice, through no fault of hers, taken away and given custody to a drug addicted, abusive, and alcoholic father. Follow me on Twitter, Facebook, WordPress, and other blogging sites to support the fight against judicial and child protective services corruption.
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I am going through the same thing with her..Can someone Please help me..this is not right, justice or or in light of God..!!
We all need to band together whereby one voice will get drowned out on its own, but a million voices together insist on being heard and cannot be drowned out, someone, somewhere will be forced to hear our cries.
You are a complete fool. Maybe if you spent less time on a stupid computer blog and more time being a better husband and father you would never have found yourself in Lori’s court room. It’s time for you to get a life!
Only cowards make such comments behind anonymous (sorry, I mean fake) email accounts… Oh, and very often people who don’t have all the information and quite honestly – LIARS. And by the way being a better husband and a better father is absolutely something I’m quite sure I can always strive for; however quite different from trying to live up to egregious FALSE ALLEGATIONS that have plagued my family (in particular my children) for almost two years. And I’m certain your suggestion is also quite different from your friend THE VERY DISHONORABLE AND TRESPASSER OF THE LAW JUDGE LORI CHRISTIAN! No matter how you slice it, Judge Lori Christian is a LIAR and a CRIMINAL. She is an ABUSIVE BULLY; nothing less! This is not my OPINION but rather the opinion of many and is supported by facts very well documented on this website. FACTS don’t lie. I’m quite sure she would love to take back some of the unlawful acts she committed against me and subsequently against my entire family, but only to protect herself from the future accountability coming her way. I may or may not know who you are (earthlink subscriber), but I can say that it is very sad to see you or anyone else coming on this site to express any sort of support for the unlawful acts committed by this JUDGE. More proof of a sour system in need of serious reform. Thanks so much for making my point. You are welcome anytime. I fear none of you… or your words. I STAND ON THE TRUTH – ALWAYS! CHANGE IS COMING!
I don’t know who this Betty is, but obviously she’s totally out of touch with reality, either that or she’s covering up for the criminals that exist down at the Wake County Courthouse?
The crimes that are being committed there by judges supposed to up hold the law is unbelievable unless you have experienced the illegal rulings of some of these arrogant, stupid, and totally corrupt and incompetant fools. They use children to merely make money for the county and the state by inappropriately subjecting them to residential facilities run by child protective services. Nay, Judge Christian herself was, at one time, a county attorney for this very corrupt governmental department. Isn’t that a gross conflict of interest!? I hope someone, somewhere steps in to put an immediate end to their vicious corruption that leads adolescents to depression and viewing death as a welcome escape! How more viscous can you possibly be? I curse the day that Christian’s kid’s preschool teacher ever donated that kidney to her allowing her to recover and continue life, for what reason? To cause uneccessary and illegal pain and suffering to parents and their children?! What a way to thank God for the miracle you were given. Betty, really, you simply don’t have a clue!
You are kidding with that comment..right?
It seems that the only way in this day and age is to get information like what is going on IN THIS COURTROOM..is to write about it. It gets to the masses that maybe able to help. This judge is corrupt to say the least. In violation of everything that she is suppossed to stand for.
I hope that you are never in the same situation this man finds himself.
You my dear are an embarrassment to all woman kind.
First and foremost, Judges are attorneys with robes. The majority are faithful to their oath or at least do their best to be. It is the few who bring the vast majority of distrust to the entire class by the vast majority of citizens. Some judges are simply overcome with power and use it however they please…and they could care less what you think, especially if you’re not represented by an attorney OR if you’re represented by an attorney who has no spine and would rather yield before the judge than have to come before that judge under conditions of animosity.
All I can say is, I’m doing my part to make records of judicial misconduct. Even as I do that, we need to keep in mind that the judges must be judged by their peers and it’s rare that these peers will make any negative findings about their not so honorable even when it’s clear. Never back down should be your goal. Corruption is a part of system that is created by a small number of judges and there are still fewer with the backbones to oppose that corruption.
Rx: Halidol for your bipolar, anti social, psychopathic disorder.
Never taken any drugs in my life; Not going to start now. Sorry, but thanks for the concern, especially since I’m assuming we never met. I only say that because you are too cowardly to use a real name or email address; just like before. Hey, is there a drug for cowards? Maybe that would help you? I’m no doctor but I don’t think those three go together. I should think you would have to jump straight to psychopathic and leave it at that. I would love to see your data on the diagnosis. Maybe you should take a closer look at your precious Judge Lori Christian? Maybe you are Judge Lori Christian. I think I’ll look into that. In the mean time, I was wondering if you would like to be a guest on my radio show? I think in would be a hoot. As I have always said, I fear none of you. I stand on the TRUTH. It’s that simple. Oh by the way, I’m sure you already know this but there is a current investigation into your precious Judge Lori Christian (and a few other judges I might add). You may not like the results… We’ll see. Sorry to here about Judge Lori Christian’s opposition popping up at the last minute like that, in the upcoming 2012 elections
Halidol??? Is that what you are taking? Never heard of it but, it does not seem to be working
Betty,
Isn’t it ironic that you should submit such diagnosis’ on innocent people where that’s exactly what Wake Family Courts and CPS does to!? You must either be one of them or have some close relationship with these two corrupt and illegal entitities?! Either way, it might suggest that you yourself have severe mental or control issues such as they do. Projection is the word that I would use as your mentally adverse behavior. Don’t know what it means? I suggest you look it up!
There seems to be a lot of CORRUPTION AND COVER UP going on in Wake County….is anyone in charge there or are the courts running themselves? Does anyone actually review what is going on there? Have you tried to get the media involved? Sounds like someone needs to do something about all of the CORRUPTION AND COVER UP…seems like the people there think that they do not have to go by what is legal and lawful. Not sure that anyone can help since it seems to be a network for the good ole boys and girls. And they do whatever they care to do and get by with doing it too.
You have to fight at the federal level against the corrupt judges of NC….they are probably scattered throughout the state. They believe they are above the law and as long as individuals are powerless and the ethical attorneys are too afraid to report the judges ( their colleages ), you can’t get equal or fair access to the courts or justice. Learn what they don’t want you to know….the law of your case.
It’s funny that the people here slandering Judge Christian are one’s who lost a contested custody case.
My suspicion is that there is a person with serious control issues doing the complaining. I’ve been in front of Judge Christian with my wife and we found her to be fair but also a judge who will in fact tell people the hard truth. We have custody of our grandson, the parents are not allowed to see him any more after bringing him home from visitation with ligature marks around his neck, one or both of them garrotted him. They only had visitation because of their negligent and abusive behavior, he suffered two separate instance of brain damage because of them. We had a male judge who was afraid of taking our grandchild away from the mother without extensive, unsupervised visitation. He almost died because of Judge Ned Mangum. Judge Christian saved this little boys life.
If you’re screaming and railing against Judge Christian, you must be similar to my son and his now exwife. Alcoholic, abusive, drug addicted, violent, mentally ill criminal who puts his/her desire to get stoned/drunk ahead of the best interests/safety of your children.
The only Screaming and Railing being done is by Judge Lori Christian herself. I have several audio (verbatim recordings) files from her hearings, sent to me by others who are “screaming and railing” against her as you put it. People like myself who she has willfully and deliberately violated their civil rights. People she calls “sperm donors” in open court; yelling “sit down and be quite before I hold you in contempt and put you in jail for 30 days” (not because anything inappropriate has been said, but just because “she can”); saying things like “do I look like I care” in response to litigants doing their best to defend themselves, and much more. There are regular complaints against Judge Lori Christian for her “Yelling” through her standard coercive and intimidating tactics. it’s all on tape, so to speak. Indisputable fact. You might ask, why is she not be investigated? Don’t assume that she is not!!!
If you agree with her approach as you say; “but also a judge who will in fact tell people the hard truth” you should immediately take a look at the Judicial Code of Conduct (State or Federal). Judges are not to be dispensing “hard truth” unless it is to be interpreted through there LAWFUL orders. You will find that the Supreme Court has ruled that even inappropriate “facial expressions” made by judges throughout proceedings is absolutely inappropriate and clearly a violation of the Judicial Standards.
By the way, she put me in jail for 2 days in January 2012 for observing in her courtroom. That’s right, observing while I was not even before her or the court on any matter whatsoever (not even a pending matter). I was observing; which is my right as a Citizen and as a Journalist.
She also jailed me in 2010 for 8 hours without any charges. You heard me right, no charge whatsoever. She simply ordered I be detained in the cells below the courthouse and later, just as simply, released me. This incident was just following her order to have a Sheriff’s deputy (two in fact) escort me to Bank of America to withdraw all the funds from my personal bank account but $1 – also by threat of 30 days in jail. Why, you may ask? Because “she can;” I had just presented a voluntary child support order in the amount of $1,408 per month for my 7 children and she was not happy with the start date taking place in five days. Keep in mind that there was no other support order in place at the time, nor was my wife even asking for support (what Judge Lori Christian did here was indisputably unlawful). This is also the hearing where Judge Lori Christian entered an Domestic Violence Protective Order against me UNLAWFULLY. You see, the problem is that my wife never even asked for a DVPO (of course this is required by FEDERAL and NC LAW), nor did my wife even testify at this hearing. Judge Lori Christian issued this order on her own motion (Basic legal corruption – because “she can”). The order was later set aside as void and unlawful, from the beginning (over 10 months later). I believe most of the aforementioned action on behalf of Judge Lori Christian were due to her dislike that I insisted on representing myself and that I am an educated white man, while she is an educated black woman. RACE was absolutely a factor (and to some degree seem to be a factor in her other cases). She seems to wear her prejudice on her sleeve quite well!
In addition to your warped, even misguided and clearly uninformed philosophical thoughts on Judge Christian I would like to speak to some of your comments directly… Although you do not provide very much detail about the “abuse” and/or the facts/evidence to address the same, I would say that if those things you describe were even remotely true, you should not have been in front of Judge Lori Christian without being in front of a criminal judge concurrently. So, if the criminal charges were in fact proven with appropriate evidence and before the proper court, then Judge Lori Christian would have appropriately granted custody to grandparents (or other family), if qualified… Not a real challenge – even a no-brainier. If their were no criminal charges then there’s no telling whether or not what you speak in words on this website is even remotely true.
I myself was accused of making my 6-year-old son eat his own “puke” and of throwing a TV on top of him when he was 6 years old, among various other “completely fabricated” absurdities (later fully and completely recanted and/or even “proven” false). It never ceases to amaze me what people will “say” and even more so what WE will so quickly “believe.”
When you express your thoughts that it is; “funny that the people here slandering Judge Christian are one’s who lost a contested custody case” I must say that you haven’t the first clue about what you are speaking!!! I have been in contact with many who simply do not like her abusive tactics (some even attorneys who have “won” there case in her courtroom, some even grandparents like yourself who were also “slammed” by this abusive, corrupt Judge Lori Christian, and even others who did not have a dog in either fight but have been reporting on her for years”… Try googling Judge Lori Christian.
The most appalling of your comments is where you say; “If you’re screaming and railing against Judge Christian, you must be similar to my son and his now ex-wife. Alcoholic, abusive, drug addicted, violent, mentally ill criminal who puts his/her desire to get stoned/drunk ahead of the best interests/safety of your children.”
This is statement is straight from the gates of hell in my opinion. You should be ashamed of yourself making such a blanket statement about people and “children” you have never met. Not speaking for others you may also be referring to, I am a former US Marine, never been arrested, I have NEVER done drugs in my entire life, and I have not had a drop of alcohol (not an alcoholic) in over 12 years (personal Christian conviction). Clearly you are angry (and maybe rightfully so), I would simply ask that you take a bit more caution when commenting on this website, but I will not censor you either way. One last piece of advice is that I suggest you be more informed about who you choose to openly support (i.e. Judge Lori Christian). You may wake up one day to read that she has been censured, reprimanded, or even removed from the bench (I PRAY).
Overall, I hope you think very hard before you speak (or write) in the future, and that you be a bit more informed than having been lucky enough to come out on the positive end of what I promise you could very easily have made you and your grandchild a victim of this corruption. But, we are of course ALL FREE TO SPEAK OR WRITE as we see fit… Thanks for “exposingyourself” while I continue to “exposetherecord”
I don’t know why you would say such a thing. I am a registered nurse who has never done anything to my son, yet Judge Christian and CPS returned my son to his drug addicted, abusive, and alcoholic father twice or more because they alleged I was “An angry mother.” Guess what? You try taking a three and a half year old away from a good loving mother, falsely accuse her of mental diagnosis’ she doesn’t have, and yes I have proof of that, pay psychologists to falsify evaluations to keep that child with a drug addicted, abusive, alcoholic, and see which mothers don’t “Act” crazy!!!!???? Judge Christian returned my son to his father twice when his father was turned in by my son for doing drugs and tested positive for drugs in court no less. Now, she has given me a few months to turn around the adverse behaviors of my now sixteen year old son from the twelve or more years of emotional and physical damage done to him by the corrupt and illegal actions of the courts and CPS putting him in that abusive, dysfunctional environment with his father in the first place. To acheive a troubled child into a perfect one in that time frame is impossible for any one to acheive and guess what the outcome is if I don’t? you got it, Corey goes into fostercare with some worthless peice of crap that’s merely waiting for the next check to come instead of with me, a loving, caring, educated mother who has been the recipient of the most heinous slander and libel.
I’m so sorry to hear about your situation. God willing things will work out for you and your child. When I pray for me and my lil ones, you’ll be in there as well.
I thought that I was the only one who had been treated in such a manner. I lost custody of my child while in front of Judge Christian. It’s a really messed up situation and I can’t afford an attorney so I’m just at a loss. I’m sorry for those going through this hell but at the same time I’m comforted that I’m not fighting this battle alone. That gives me hope.
My story isn’t nearly as traumatic as some of the others here, and didn’t even involve this monster(thankfully).
However, I had to sit in front of a Wake county family court judge a few years ago, without representation because I couldn’t afford it(I’m a State of NC employee). This judge and the IVD attorney proceeded to slander me and my wife and also humiliate my wife in open court. I was referred to as a “spoiled kid” by the IVD attorney, who neither knows me personally or is far enough ahead of me in years to be able to make such a statement. The judge herself came down from her pedestal long enough to admonish my wife and tell her she needed to “get a job”. Nevermind the fact that she’d been trying since graduating from college a few months prior to this hearing. Nevermind that folks better qualified with more experience had been trying for years with no more success than my wife. I was told by this judge that she was doing me a favor by giving me allowance for gas cost to and from my visitation. This despite me telling her that the amount of support she was ordering would preclude my being able to visit. I even told the judge and the Centralized Support people that I was not averse to an increase, but that it needed to be one that I could afford.
For those who don’t know, as a State of NC employee you are paid once a month. However, the taxation tables are figured for biweekly pay. This means that your taxes are higher than they are for someone with biweekly pay. To whit, my gross pay is nearly $3,000 a month… but a third of my pay is taken each month in taxes. Deduct insurance premiums and this punitive child support order, and I bring home just over $1,000 a month.
Oh, and the “punitive” part you ask? Well, that’s easy. My ex-wife had a job making more than I do. But, she liked being unsupportive of disciplining our son(He was quickly workin his way into the “Scared Straight” program in his county.). I got tired of grounding him on my end only to have her refuse to enforce those punishments at her house. Even referring to me in a negative manner to my son for trying to help him become a better person. This was not abuse either, just grounding or loss of privileges for a set period of time. After months of this I called her and told her that if she refused to support me in disciplining our son then I would refuse to be financially liable when he destroyed someone’s property because of his delinquent behavior.
Next thing I know she’s quit her job, moved in with her dad, and a few months later has applied for an increase in child support. She did this specifically to increase the income disparity between us so that she could get the maximum from me and the two sperm donors she recruited for one night stands several years apart after we were divorced.
She smokes around my son, feeds him nothing but junk food and dresses him in rags that aren’t even fit for play clothes.
But I’m the bad guy? I and my wife have ALWAYS fed him good, wholesome food, refused to allow him junk food of any kind. We have no roaches in our home, but they crawl throughout hers with impunity. My son is on several medications at her house, but within hours of coming into mine he has no need for them, even his asthma meds.
That’s right, his health actually IMPROVES here. Because of her neglect, my son is losing his adult teeth, despite brushing. He is also pre-diabetic(maybe full blown now, and he’s only 14). HE also has other health issues that are now being kept from me by his mother and his doctors, who refuse to tell me anything.
I’m the bad guy though?
While I admit that I took him to GoodWill to buy clothes, those were decent clothes, even better than the hand-me-downs I got as a kid. They were certainly far and above better than what she sent him to my house in.
Oh, and let’s not forget that my son’s health has deteriorated to the point that he’s on Oxy for pain due to a mass or growth in his liver. Last I was told it wasn’t cancer, but then they said he had cancer antibodies in his blood.
How do you get cancer antibodies without having cancer? I asked the doctor this and was given the runaround. Next time I tried to check on his progress I was told that they weren’t sure they could talk to me, and mumbled something about my ex-wife’s directive concerning me. When I asked for a clarification on what they’d said they hung up and refused to take my calls.
But I’m the bad guy?
The court here is so corrupt it’s beyond ridiculous. Even my State legislative Rep, whom I met with about this, knew her name and intimated that I’m NOT the first or only person she’s done this too.
Oh, and one last thing. The Deputy assigned to her courtroom as Bailiff that day made a threatening gesture toward me in court WITHOUT provocation on my part. You see, placing your hand on your sidearm in preparation to draw your weapon and fire is considered to be threatening behavior. What did I do to deserve to be threatened? I verbalized my disagreement with Her Honor’s self-proclaimed magnanimity in a civil manner.
Don’t worry though. As soon as I got home I called my son and told him everything. I figured if she wasn’t going to be fair and was going to try and use our son as a weapon against me, I was going to take away that weapon. I said nothing negative, I didn’t tell him about the fact that her smoking, drinking, partying and drug abuse were the reason he was born with mental deficiencies. I didn’t tell him that his mother was a whore(dozens of partners and two more kids by different men tell that quite well). I didn’t slander her her or anything. I just told him how it really was and why I wouldn’t be able to visit as much.
My son now understands what she was trying to do, and has done a complete 180 in school. His behavior, while not perfect, is a far cry from what it once was. I just hope he can survive her long enough to be able to get away from her.
Void. I absolutely feel for you more than you know. I could write you a story a mile long about what this horrible family has done to my family and the courts have allowed it to continue. So this judge she is far from the only one.
Here in Kanawha County men who beat up pregnant women and even bite them , lie to the court and are caught lying, have many previous felonies but never served but one day in jail, fail every drug test given to them, abandon their children over and over, and even had pyciatric evaluations stating that they are violent and dangerous, are still given visitation to their children. What makes you an unfit parent these days? Does the child have to be harmed before they finally step in? Makes me wonder what happen to the days when I grew up that if you did the crime, you paid the time and if you lied in court you were punished for doing so.
And CPS… Come on. There is a woman I know here who ALLOWED her daughter to be molested by her ex because she did not want to lose everything she had. He was caught by her mother and serving time. Her daughter was removed from her care. BUT now she has 4 more children from 4 different guys. The current man who lives with her is a drug addict/ alcoholic. The police are called to the home all the time because of domestic violence. Yet She gets to keep the four children she has , curse them on a daily basis and they get to learn to beat on their significant other.
If I went into the whole story of what my daughters sperm donors family has done to our family ( yes his parents condone his behavior and even lie for him) it would take me a month. But to make it as short as possible. He took my daughter and her son to another state and abandoned them there a week later. He showed up to the custody hearing with a motion from his lawyer saying that if my daughter did not show up he was filing for sole custody. He left THEM there with no car, no money, no diapers thinking she would never make it back. (Well her mommy and daddy did not allow that to happen and they made an 8 hour trip to make sure she was in that court room.) But he told the courts before she ever got here that my daughter took him out of state because she and I were trying to prevent him from seeing his son. I paid his F—— way there and got him a job because he promised he wanted to change and take care of his family.
They lie so much I am surprised they have not spontaneously combusted. What is wrong with this system? They do not care that he abandoned her while pregnant, abandoned them again and again, they do not care that he has beat on / bit her on more than one occasion and even threw his son once to do so, they do not care that he and his parents lie and lie and lie to them.
My daughter will never come back to this state and now we are leaving. We are leaving because their judicial system does not care…………
This families own lawyer dropped them because of all of their lies yet the court still gives him rights. What do they have to teach my grandson? To lie, to never accept responsibility for the things he does wrong but to blame others instead. to beat up on others, that it is ok to do drugs as long as you become a narc so you can get away with it, to steal, to hit himself in the head when he is angry, and that there is no God?
They will NOT turn my grandson into the monster they have turned their son into if I have to take it to every court that exists . His mother is prepared to do so. Nobody has ever fought this family back because they have SO MANY people who will lie for them it is unreal. Well they finally met their match. I have GOD on my side as does my daughter.
When I vote I will vote every CURRENT person out and pray that the new ones bring change……………
To say judge Christian is a bad judge is a mild accusation!My child custody final hearing is going to be sometime in the future but she has already ruled on temporary custody in a complete disregard of the truth and the child best interest! Only a fool or corrupted individual could believe the evidence submitted. Translators were not court registered and coached the defender (my wife), false pictures of a bruise that even Mike Tyson couldn’t inflict and for sure if picture was taken 4 hours later the bruise should have turned black and not pink like makeup powder! By the way alleged incident happened while I was driving! I AM DISABLED AND CANNOT EVEN LIFT MY ARMS! False statements after false statements that didn’t match the previous days testimony given by defense witnesses. Complete disregard for a Sexual book that the child (6 years old) had in his possession,where are all the good attorneys ? need help and my attorney was only interested in my money! If any attorney out there can help me please get in touch! I have $5000 left but I need an attorney that will give this people a taste of truth and not bow in fear or camaraderie like my attorney did!
The only truth Judge Christian acknowledged was that my wife was a flight risk and was going to take our son to her native country, very good Judge! She had abducted our child on June 19/2012 and for five days I suffered enormous pain and anguish! It really took brain power to see that! With her last ruling she is has lad the bases for the final ruling that will give my wife final custody and the right to travel to Poland with the child and never bring him back! What kind of JUSTICE is this! She ruled that I prohibited my wife to have a cell phone,a key to the house and verbally abused her! Silly and untrue charges!In 13 years I never prohibited any thing to my wife,I took her on vacations all over Europe where we stayed in luxury hotels ,bought her clothes,jewelry and even bought her a condo in Krakow Poland. Oh yes your Honor I was a FOOL too! For the love I have for our innocent child I stayed in this marriage for 6 years and I WAS THE ABUSED ONE! This wonderful wife only wants her way,in Poland she will live with her parents,brother,sister in law (whom she hates and has not spoken to in 6 years,just like she did with my older son and his wife) and she will live the child with the grandparents to raise while she will be free from her obligations! By the way throughout the hearings the child interest and well been were mentioned rarely, mostly mentioned was that my wife was the one that cooked fed him and therefore was the primary caretaker! HOW DUMB!!!!! FATHERS OF AMERICA FEED YOUR CHILDREN S OR YOU SCREWED!! You Honor,God said that man does not live from brad alone so look at real issues and act reasonable and take a super dose of HUMBLENESS! Man are human beings too.
Being in Jude Christian court brought out the worst of me,compounded by the sleazy attn Zocol , his wife coaching translation and all the false accusations I did curse a couple of people and for that I ask God to forgive me! I hope to be able to forgive everyone regardless of the outcome of all of this! No one should be in this situation I am and feel so helpless and without a smudge of hope. This is America and we need for all the good people to rise up and stop this third world tyrannic justice
How can judge Christian limit my relation with my son to 8 hours a week! The allegations against me were not proven and they were false!GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSE JUDGE! You only made things worse for me and my son!I will have a lot more to say at a later date especially about corruption and attorneys malpractice! Oh by the way you approved translators that were not court registered! I found one sitting in orientation that works for Wake Court! How strange! She is registered an available on short notice but HONORABLE ZOCOL got his wife to translate and coach the defendant!By the way my wife was the one that abducted my son and for five days I lived in hell! Don’t worry your honor every dog gets his day in the sun!
Can you contact the judicial commision in your state? If you go to your states website, they should have instructiona on how to file a complaint on a judge or an attorney. You should also contact local news channels and the civil liberties association, each state has their own division and directors. People do not seem to realize how much power a local judge has, it is terrifying when this is abused. I would contact ALL of these places weekly, and would not stop until I got some help!! I would also record anything that happens in the courtroom.
Ok Judge Christian! Do some work and listen to the recording of the first hearing testimony and you will notice the lies from witnesses and clear discrepancy between two key liars! I want JUSTICE not your assumptions based on B.S. ! My son is cheated and deprived of his rights and I will not stop until you do your JOB not what you like! You have to review the transcript and video that ZOCOL obtained in a filthy swap with other attorney! This attorneys are a disgrace to their profession and you HELP them??????
Judge Christian did you listen to the hearings recordings yet? I doubt it! Your Dishonor I will not let up! I don’t ask but DEMAND that you give me custody of my child,a clear ruling by you of willingly and maliciously giving false testimony and presenting false evidence by my wife and the Shramms and your apology for your ruling! I will fight you until my last breath and as a famous man said:“
An individual who breaks a law that conscience tells him is unjust, and who willingly accepts the penalty of imprisonment in order to arouse the conscience of the community over its injustice, is in reality expressing the highest respect for the law” ― Martin Luther King Jr.
And I will respect the law that is just!!!!
It looks like the chances we have to remove this cancer of a Judge are slim to none! We need to organize a massive march on the Capital and get the news media involved. Judicial comity people don’t even return calls and this blog alone is not enough! Attorneys are scared of entering a fight with her and some are in bed with her! I WILL NOT STOP!!!!!!!!
Mario Vellotti killed his wife this morning.
This is unfortunate. In part, probably the consequence of corruption within the court system which stripped this man of all hope. I think Judge Lori Christian literally dodged a bullet and I pray this judge behaves herself or the next incident may play out differently.
My prayers goto the family and friends of Mr. Vellotti, his deceased wife and their child who will have no mother or father for what may be the remainder of his/her life now. I pray that Judge Lori Christian realizes her part in this and steps down OR stop her corruption.
The sad thing about being able to post things on line is, people can misconstrue facts with statements alone. I actually sat in court and heard Mario Vellotti testify under oath in July 2012. On this forum, he indicates many accusations as untrue however, I heard him acknowledge many things in court that he has since claimed to be untrue.
When I left court that day, I did not remember his name but I remembered his testimony. Seeing him on TV and after reading this sites postings, I am saddened. I can see this couple in court and now more than ever know beyond a doubt that this man turned out to be far worst than he or even she portrayed him to be in court.
Seeing is believing…you are not being honest. On this forum Mario’s denials are clearly stated and his testimony in court shows no disagreement with those posts. The court recordings validate this and you have no credibility with me and hopefully anyone else for being so foolish as to misrepresent the truth when it is in writing and on court recordings. Any claims that Mario ever told a lie or changed his story are untrue. Until Mario shot his wife he and his other family members where vicitms of Agata, this court and numerous vicious,spineless, greedy, dishonest, unethical and unprofessional attorneys.
Had there been one decent human being involved instead of said scum, perhaps Mario would have acted differently. Had his child not been robbed of what was a happy life and bright future and taken for ransom over money that, unbeknownst to Marc Sokol, Mario did not even have…Had anyone, including Mario’s own attorneys, listened to even half of what he told them and examined hard evidence accordingly…Had the jubelinda completely disregarded both Mario and his older son’s testimony that Agata was mentally torturing the child and that she was a recluse who kept her child like a caged hamster…Had anyone given an ounce of attention to Mario’s side of the story and examined the facts to at least notice that several things did not add up with Agata’s testimony…Had the judge considered Mario’s documented evidence and even Agata’s own testimony regarding her abuse and seen that there were lies in plain sight…Had anyone given a damn about the truth and acted accordingly…Had anyone had any goal other than to punish a man regardless of his guilt or innocence and with utter disregard for the child’s best interest and the status quo…Had Mario been given any reason to believe that maybe his child would not permanently end up in the hands of a sick and abusive mother…Had the judge simply had a sliver of integrity and respect for the robe…maybe you would not be reading this right now!
What really gets to me is that these same individuals, who are the true criminals, and of the worst type, have the audacity to come on this forum and tell lies to further instigate and prod those that care about the truth. At the same time they are preserving their own hides because it is only through lies that they can they convince readers that they are righteous and keep the people from realizing that the whole system is corrupt and that judges and attorneys are getting rich by ruining lives and provoking these tragedies. Callous and heartless are they! Foolish ones they are to believe that they can create reality from fiction without a steep price. Although they succeed many times, in doing so they become slaves to their own evil ways. Happiness is the price of evil. This is one reality they can’t escape. Confined to misery they seek to spread their pain to others. Until people realize that this vermin is a parasite to society on a scale that is vastly beyond what society can tolerate, their demise will not come. Like so many things we have seen, from the recent financial meltdown to the wide scale corruption of our institutions, even a global melt down does little to free us from the cancer that corruption creates for the hard working and honest human being. I for one would wish that I could be blessed enough to avoid contributing to this cancer but my hope that I can even make a difference is dim so I write this as a small contribution to the cause and pray for strength to be able to continue spreading truth. More to follow before years end…keep your eyes on these posts!
Yours truly,
Innocent Bystander
Art- Shame on you and the other mindless fools/ who write on this hateful website without knowing any of the facts. To take the word of a disgruntled litigant who writes the kind of trash you have here as truth is one thing, but to blame a judge for the act of a coward with a handgun is another. Within a few minutes after Mrs. Vellotti’s death, your hero was seen hunting for other victims-witnesses who testified at his custody hearing. so yes, Judge Christian may have “dodged a bullet” that morning—but its people like you–people who for even one moment think that a Judge or other elected official “deserves” to be physically harmed because they are doing their job — for doing what we pay them to do—–for holding our society together—who are the biggest dangers to our country. In this case, Judge Christian had it right all along.
I don’t think a judge deserves to be physically harmed MARC, but you have a right to take what I say out of context because you THINK we are all mindless fools for excercising our rights to speak. I’ve seen the corruption in the court system…it’s real and nothing can be done about it by a normal citizen, especially in the court system. It is the ignorance of someone who hasn’t had any taste of the crooked nature of some judges that couldn’t even imagine how it feels. You can’t sue a judge…well you can, but it’s pointless. When left with no options, sometimes this is the crap that comes out of it. So to you, I hope you get your taste of some of that corruption and if you do, I hope you don’t do what this man did. See, I know anyone can snap at anytime. While I have no personal knowledge of what this judge may or may not have done, I KNOW there are crooked attorneys wearing robes and there’s a reasonable explaination for the lack of trust that could bring. I don’t advocate violence.
What I do know is: Judges can’t change facts to suit what they want…judges can’t make or change the law to get what they want…judges have a duty that is very important. Yet some do change facts, change law and ignore their duty. Anyone who thinks that’s not the case may be a ignorant (lacking information) or a mindless fool as you put it. Some judges can do what they want because there are NO consequences….literally. It is to those judges I say, the robe and the law degree doesn’t make you invincible to everything and everyone.
And Marc, if you don’t like this so called hateful website, why visit it? You have a right to post here and to your opinion. And the right to free speech belongs to the website owner, you, I and any other so called “mindless fools”. If we don’t know any of the facts as you say (let’s assume you think you know the facts), then we’re just like most of the people who believe anything they hear coming out of one of their parties’ politicians’ mouths. Here’s what I do believe: MOST judges are fair and impartial….most citizens are ignorant because of a lack of information….most attorneys fight for their clients rights….there aren’t enough attorneys….some judges are outright corrupt….some attorneys could witness judicial corruption and remain neutral or have to complain anonymously…some can participate in aiding judicial corruption and be protected. We are all mindless to some degree….I think it has more to do with ignorance.
And again..
My prayers goto the family and friends of Mr. Vellotti, his deceased wife and their child who will have no mother or father for what may be the remainder of his/her life now. I pray that Judge Lori Christian realizes her part in this and steps down OR stops her corruption (if that’s the case).
Is that better MARC…….?
I agree Art. What you don’t know is that MARC has an interest in this case. SURPRISE! He is also part of the problem.
Of course the bigger picture clearly proves that the system is absolutely broken and these are the types of tragedies that take place… along with parental alienation and complete separation of children from their loving parents (this is simply another form of MURDER in my opinion – MURDER OF THE FAMILY UNIT). It’s a life’s blood sucking system that is fueled by the almighty dollar, greed, power, and corruption. Anyone who participate, anyone who contributes any amount of time, anyone at all who supports the very thought of such a system is absolutely PART OF THE PROBLEM!
Since I know who MARC is, I can tell you that his comments don’t surprise me a bit. His attempt at anonymity is typical of him and of course in line with most, if not all of the others who have hidden their identity while trying to express opposition to this website and others like it. MARC is also a very strong supporter of Judge Lori Christian because he has close personal ties to her and therefore to the corruption in her court.
I too find it interesting how MARC tries to complain about the comments on this website and how they are presented as “truth” while doing the same himself. Unfortunately for him, his omission of certain facts, his connection to this case, and even his connection to ME personally for that matter only exposes his TRUE AGENDA!
I too pray for the entire family and their extended family as this unfortunate tragedy unfolds. I am deeply saddened by this 7-year-old boy being abandoned like this, being thrust into such a crude, incapable system (and now without a father or mother). I pray for him most of all. I hope his father seeks and finds forgiveness at the right time.
No Marc…shame on you for knowing the facts and coming to this forum to further your Agenda while disregarding those same facts. I praise anyone who encourages people to be fully informed but given who you are and your motives I will refrain. Perhaps you should peddle your unsavory wares in a place full of mindless fools instead of here. No one here believes your version of this story if you did not notice! Also, no one here needs a lesson in ethics or morality from you. Even if you could conjure anything meaningful to teach us how to think and act it’s impact would be muted by the fact that you created it. Your antics may work in court but we all know that you lack character and in my book you are just another noisy annoying pest. No response needed…just go away! And no…Judge Christian did not have it right all along. The only thing she got right was to throw Agata out of the residence and she did so for all of the wrong reasons.
I see that Mark Sokol, the Prince of the Real Forum has stooped down to enter this forum of, in his words, mindless people!
Sokol, this is a forum for the people and by the people. People with real pain and most of them victims of the dishonorable Judge Lori Christian and attorneys like you! Sokol, you are a mediocre attorney at best and judges like Christian and others give you power and make you think that you are good. How sad. Using your wife like a pimp to translate on my case where she proceeded to coach Agata to answer questions by feeding her the answers surreptitiously! Using phony photos and false testimony to destroy my child’s life…not to mention my life! Don’t worry though. It will all catch up with you and your accomplices. Such is life.
I thank those who supported me. I would like to clarify one thing though. I did not marry Agata for love but she got pregnant to give me a reason to marry her. I was a fool but I wanted to be a father to my child so I married her. She entrapped me for my money because she knew the type of person that I was and that I would do anything for my family and soon to be son! She knew this because she saw the sacrifice and love that I made for all of my children from my first marriage and the pain that I endured to be a good father for them!
In our marriage, I was everything to Agata that my first wife would have wanted. Faithfull, calm loving and more. And for this she betrayed me not only by using my son as a pawn to get her every wish granted but, in the end, by setting me up with false statements and accusations of abuse! You, Agata and the Schramms concocted a story to make her kidnapping of my son seem reasonable and despite all evidence to the contrary, the corrupt courts were ready to believe you over the truth which was ready to be seen if only they had been willing to look at my evidence. You made sure that they would not though! And through all of this Agata’s secret lover is never mentioned!
The reason this is all the more disgusting to me is that you did not even know Agata. She had stolen hundreds of thousands of dollars from my restaurant in Poland before I married her. I also bought her a $1,000,000 apartment in Poland, furnished her parents house and left them my car before we got married. But this was not enough for her or you! She had to take my son and now that she is gone, because of you and the corrupt judges and government agencies, he has been ripped away from his Brother who he loves dearly and who has been like a father to him since he was 1 year old. His older brother who, with his wife, have helped to raise Chicco and teach him English, show him nature and life, teach him to love others. He and his wife who worked hard every day to keep a roof over Agata and Chiccos head while I struggled with my health. Child services has proven to be another travesty by refusing to look at the evidence and sending my child to Poland in a substandard house in rural, cold, impoverished Poland! Child services and the judge blocaded my older son from intervening in the custody by lying and you, Sokol, were more than happy to instigate and feed more lies. There is much more that I would like to say but I am pleased to see that Sokol was concerned enough to come to this Forum! Hopefully one of his false witnesses or accomplices will reconsider their position and at least give my son Chicco the chance for a good life in the UNITED STATES WHICH IS HIS HOME! God Bless you all.
Mario Vellotti.
Looks like Mario had something to say to you Marc. What’s the matter Marc? Suddenly you are being shy!
I am so sickened right now. And I can’t respond where I want to, directly to the articles I’ve read. So I’m going to do so here if you don’t mind.
I found an article yesterday, and a news video, that are just prolonging this already horrible tragedy. It was here: http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/11508931/
And this is what I need to get out of me in response, so that I can get these feelings out and try to move on:
Speaking as a *long-estranged* person who knows the parties involved, I feel compelled to point out that while the In Memorium (sic) letter linked to in this article paints the perfect picture of a scared, shy, tormented victim, and makes for a sensational story for the public, it’s quite frankly just that – a painted picture. The first, most glaring inaccuracy is that “Agata met her husband in Krakow”. The author should tell the truth. Agata met *someone else’s* husband in Krakow. Someone else’s husband of 30+ years (and no, I am not that person). But that didn’t stop her from sleeping with him, and playing him like a fiddle. There were too many dollar signs in front of her eyes to keep her from that. The fact is that the relationship between Agata and Mario was born from dishonesty and greed, in *both* of them. There wasn’t a moment of love between the two of them, including during the entrapping pregnancy. These two started with no good, and now have ended with no good. The “humble, painfully shy, quiet woman” was quite frankly dark, sour, and cold from the moment I remember having met her. Never in a million years does her dishonest and greedy character mean she deserved to be killed. HE HAD NO RIGHT TO DO THAT TO HER. But reading the poor, pitiful image being painted of her is making me sick. The only poor, pitiful soul in this is their little child. He was born into unhappiness, to two mentally maladjusted parents. And through both of their selfish actions he is now parentless. And that’s the truth. Journalists really need to quit trying to sell the whole “she spent her time at home caring for her son” business – it’s just irresponsible to write this statement in every article when these journalists have no idea what went on in that home, and how she, or he, cared *or did not care* for their child. There are several other victims of this, several friends and family now left with the aftermath, on all sides. But the one who will suffer most is that little child. And no complete strangers in Poland (regardless of the endearing Polish-equivalent grammy/grampy terms used in the letter [written by yet another stranger to all of this]), and no family or strangers in America, are going to erase the history that has been stamped on this child. “Francesco will have material needs…perhaps for counseling”, the memorial letter states. “Perhaps”? Ya think??? I would hope that’s at the forefront for him. It’d be a shame for anyone to think they’re helping this little boy by donating and for the money to actually go to an attorney for a divorce tab. Is there no third party directly representing the best interests and needs of this little boy? Does such a thing not exist? Maybe CPS would know. They’re the guardians of this poor boy now. Journalists, attorneys, and the like need to quit sensationalizing this and painting the picture American readers need in order to make this all fit their expected, zoned-in-comfort notions. Guess what folks – it doesn’t fit – the whole thing is sad and ugly and wrong all the way around.
And for the record, after now having watched the accompanying video to this article…if Maddocks knew Agata so well, why does she not even know how to pronounce her name? Her first name, for God’s sake? This whole thing is sick.
This is not a game. This is not a paycheck. These are people’s lives. Just sickening.
While I entire agree with this woman being represented as so wholesome when they don’t even know the drama in that family. She wasn’t anything like what she in being protrayed to be. She was an opportunist, she lied to garner position with the child, a if he child is a chess piece. She might have cornered the king, but she under-estimated what happens when the king isn’t played with fairly.
However, the question that should be on everyone’s mind is what caused Agata to be shot and what caused Mario to shoot her?? I’ve know him for most of my life and while he certainly has some strage expectations of loyalty out of people in his life, I don’t recall ever anticipating this would have happened. With him you’re either in the loop or out of the loop. But just to humor me, perhaps the police could find one incident where this man phyically abused his wife. That’s just not his style and I’m doubting one exists.
Agata has a website with her knitting items for sale, how could she possibly be forced to clean house 9 hours a day and produce that kind of work? If he is on disability, he’ s earning what $900 a month, who could afford a cell phone. Then, if she was selling her work and had a website, how could she not have a cell phone? I’m betting here that there was not any one time there was abuse called to anyone’s attention until she filed for divorce. And from what I hear, she was forced to leave the house. If I was being abused, you wouldn’t have to force me out. So I don’t buy any of that crap. And, if Mario was going after a neighbor for lying, then I’m betting the man was lying.
It shows the desparation of a man who was subjected to a court who was completely biased. My guess is this woman was advised how to play the system (why not go to the police or call the police why go to a neighbor?) And this stupid neighbor lied for whatever reason thinking he was helping this poor poor pitiful thing. Mario gets left with supervised 4 hour visitation and that doesn’t make for a good day for a control freak.
This judge needs to find another occupation because Mario might have pulled the trigger, but she loaded the gun by buying into that poopoo party and not taking the time to look for facts. And whatever crappy attorney or staff member who advised this woman to play this game, blood in on your hands too. And to the neighbor who lied, I hope you do time in jail for your part in all of this. Because the bottom line is a 6 year old is left with no parents and THAT is the tragedy here!
Agata got what she deserved, Mario will get what he deserves, the boy will never get what he deserved. And that is my opinion on how I see this mess.
What you have written is true however you have only scratched the surface. This forum will not know the true extent of the deception and wickedness being doled out until Mario and his older son have their chance to share the truth. I understand that they do not wish to discuss anything publicly at this point and respect their silence.
I sat in on Ms. Ritlinger’s case yesterday, and, once again, I was appauled as to what the outcome was in her case. It was very apparent that Wake County DHHS Senior Pracitioner and Joan Kuruc, the child’s advocate, Pretender Defender, had banded together, as did her sorry ex-husband, Kevin Ritlinger to remove her son from her once again by testimony that was obviously lies and outright perjury in court. Judge Christian never looked at hardly any of the mass of evidence Ms. Ritlinger had spread out on the table before her, and even refused some of that offered to her. Ms. Ritlinger had her son evaluated, where, it appeared, Mr. Cooper either procrastinated on that or didn’t make an effort to do it at all, to try and satisfy the courts and CPS to determine whether her son needed medications or not. The outcome of the evaluation, from my observation was, that her son really didn’t need any medications but to ward off evil spirits, so to speak, Dr. Gualitieri, the best Neuropsychiatrist in the state, prescribed the sixteen year old boy the minimal medications for the low level depression that he was having. That was not sufficient for the parties out to lynch Ms. Ritlinger and remove her son from her once more. Ms. Kuruc, Pretender Defender, was fully supportive of Mr. Cooper even though she has professed many times in court that she is purely the GAL to represent the boy’s preference of where he wishes to live. The father, Kevin Ritlinger, obviously sold out his own son to retreive custody when he has a history of domestic violence stemming back years, along with his drug habit also. For the umpteenth time, Judge Lori Christian removed this boy from his mother’s loving, nurturing home and made him return to a father who at the very least is a drug addict and abusive. Furthermore, Judge Lori Christian forced the care of the child to return to that of James Poole, Growing Child Pediatrics who routinely assigns bogus diagnosis’ to children to enable him to write a mass of prescriptions whether they truly have the diagnosis or not. He has been reported for this by more than one parent. Then another female mother told me that she stopped going to this quack whereby every time she took her child there he would hug her tightly, “Pressing my breasts into his chest,” and then “He would pull back, smile and tell me, “Don’t tell your husband I did that.”" Obviously, that mother no longer takes her child to this quack who on one or more occasions was delinquent on his property taxes. You do the math! So now, thanks to Judge Lori Christian, the boy is going to be potentially thoroughly drugged again by James Poole with the full support of all parties, Cooper, Kuruc, Kevin Ritlinger, who has a history of stealing others NARCOTIC medications, and, most of all Judge Lori Christian. Oh, and here’s the doosey. When Ms. Ritlinger left the courtroom she was so emotionally distraught she got on her cell phone while waiting for the elevator to tell her family and/or friends the crap decision of this corrupt judge, and the balif upon hearing her went back into the courtroom to tell Judge Christian who sent balifs and police running through the courthouse to return Ms. Ritlinger to the courtroom to have her arrested, no doubt, but she had already left. Now she is going to face, I am told, a Show Cause whereby Judge Christian told her, where she was so distraught she didn’t register this, not to tell anyone, I repeat ANYONE, about the court hearing that just took place. This is a violation of Ms. Ritlinger’s right to freedom of speech, and what does Judge Christian expect her to do? Oh, let me guess, “Suck it up and get over it,” as Judge Green often tells people in her courtroom. No, this Judge is getting away with too many civil and criminal violations, someone needs to remove her from the bench quickly before she does further harm to families, especially the children.
My prayers go out to this woman and her child. If I had read this story 6 months ago I would discredit it as impossible. I too have been a victim of Judge Christian now understand e evil of this court. These judges and attorneys are beyond scum. In exchange for money they are willing to destroy mothers and fathers, brothers and sisters and even very young children. Their evil is without limit and without fear or shame. They have no mercy in their quest for the dollar bill and are the vermin of our society. People who think otherwise have never been in the family court room! Remember all the rules you learned about our justice system? Well, those do not apply in family court. Any attorney will tell you there is no standard of evidence so the family court can believe anything it wants for its own convenience. As such, they tend to believe the party who is broke so that the broke lying thief can accuse their spouse who is honest and hard working of anything that will result in an expensive and painful battle. This way, when all is said and done the person who deserved to go to jail goes free but the court and attorneys get paid at the expense of the innocent victims in the matter! Plain and simple…this is worse than e Mob! Down with these tyrants!
Interesting stories as I recently went in front of this ignorant and arrogant judge in an effort of receiving visitation of my nieces when the father filed for Emergency Custody. She herself told me to intervene in the case as I had acted very much in a parental role for years while the father was nowhere to be found. It took her 5 months (and after the first hearing date that was continued) to figure out that I had “significant involvement” in the children’s lives. One was living with me so this should have been easy for her to decide. She also refused to have the 12 yo child I subpoenaed speak to her as she would miss 2 hours of school. She would have quickly learned the truth about the child’s close bond to me but it seems she is clueless that is to be her objective!!At the Emergency Custody hearing it was fine to miss a half day so the father could make it to his Wild Turkey Federation luncheon, now that is important!
In the final hearing that took 3 days, as she wanted to allow the fathers lawyer to reword and reword the same questions 15 times ( billable hours…) she could not hear anything she had a problem with. Not that he was living with a girlfriend who’s son moved in a few months before, straight out of prison, but hey, he only broke in houses repeatedly for heroin money. And of course, after 5 months living there, they surprised him with a drug-test the week before court and “they say” it was clean. She had no questions about the father’s pending drunk driving charges. A case pending for 5 years? And the little girl that had wanted to live with me for years; Christian believed it when the father, his girlfriend and the D.S.S. workers claimed that in a year the kids never mentioned my name. It was shameful of me with sending letters telling them I loved them and missed them, cards and chocolate strawberries. Counsel insinuated I was “sick” to do this. This woman is not capable of acting against D.S.S. , even in this case when they”substantiated sexual assault” when the now 12yo was 5 but when they moved back in with the “accused” they quickly closed the case as “no further action required” D.S.S. said I needed to mind my business and they were doing nothing, great people over there! And then the fathers counsel insinuates, based on”maybe?’ that I was a pedophile. This is bad stuff to accuse someone of based on nothing. I felt sorry for my niece as her mother nor father had been acting right for years and she kept begging to live with me SO I DID!!
The worst was I had prepared to question the father and had saved my time of three hours allotted for me or so said Christian. She even assured me I would be given my promised time but 5 minutes in to my hour I needed she said “your done, here is my findings”. She awarded me nothing
There is more but I know I am only an uncle (as social services told me) but was compelled to add to this forum my horrible dealings with this incompetent woman.
Judge Christian was the wake county judge who, in her findings of fact, found that I was a horrible person and that there was violence and other unhealthy conditions in my home despite evidence to the contrary. She had already decided the case before she entered the courtroom and she and a vicious attorney proceeded to spew vitriol at everyone except the guilty and dishonest defendant…my stepmother! I was forbidden to contact my brother who had been kidnapped by his mother and who had both gone missing for 5 days. The story is much more than just this. I am writing a book, have a news story with Kelli O’Hara on this week and will be pursuing these people publicly and in court and on Tv, Internet and radio. My brother has been shipped to Poland in a substandard place living under the poverty line! This is public record from the court proceedings. The state has gone too far and I am my brothers only family and parental figure! I supported him and helped raise and educate him and his relationship with me has been completely suppressed overnight by an out of control judge and a vicious money hungry attorney. A woman is dead and a family is suffering and torn apart. My father shot and killed his wife shortly after judge Christian took away the only thing that mattered in my day’s life. The hopelessness that she created in my father drove him to des aspiration, anger, tears and eventually I believe he just snapped. He was never violent in his adult life and was a great father to me and my brother until these courts willfully helped his wife to lie and destroy him in broad daylight. This judge and all who follow my story will know the truth about this corruption and malice. Watch for abc 11 to air this and look here for future links to my videos documenting the corruption and lies from the police to the attorneys and judges. If something happens to me to prevent me from publishing these things rest assured the big brother has eliminated me and I am not gone by choice or mistake. If I am stopped from revealing my story in its entirety there are individuals who I have named and will expose. I have entrusted key allies to publish, release and publicize my story and reveal the names of people who destroyed my life. I have a 3 hour dialogue between my wife and i that contains a vivid recount of the whole story from when my dad first met my stepmother and how we all ended up living together. I have copies of my case against the state and all evidence, records and evidence on my laptop. if something happens to me someone must demand my laptop. If the case the state tries to silence me and they do not release my laptop then I have a contact with a media copy and my attorney will set in. I am scared and ready to come forward publicly. Any who care to join my mission to expose this corrupt court email stefvell@hotmail.com. The public needs us to stand up against this needless punishment to families and children! No one will believe one person. I am making a list and gathering support. Join me and let us improve the lives of thousands who suffer from these oppressive courts! Stay tuned! I am praying to survive the first month of this and by then I will have enough inertia to defeat the tyrants.